SUBJECTS: Drought Communities Program; Inaction on Drought Policy.
ALAN JONES: Its not just a drought crisis; this is a political crisis the way this has been handled. The way this has been handled is in one word Im sorry disgraceful. The poor farmers and rural people are being told all sorts of stories and those stories are inaccurate. Now yesterday, when I spoke to Joel Fitzgibbon, he was the person who mentions now its everywhere but he was the person who broke the story, that the Moyne Shire M O Y N E S in Victoria, infamous I might add for its wind turbines which are creating awful health problems for its people, one of 13 local government areas to win a slice of the $100 million drought relief package and they are experiencing one of their best seasons in years. And Joel Fitzgibbons from the Hunter, and there is not one project that addresses the problems of drought in the Hunter Valley, including his shires Singleton in particular which is as dry as a bone Joel good morning.
JOEL FITZGIBBON, MEMBER FOR HUNTER: Thats right Alan, and the Prime Minister continues to run around claiming he is spending $7 billion on the drought. Now Alan, if he is, the question needs to be asked where in the hell is it going because as you know and youve said many times, the farmers we speak to arent receiving any assistance.
JONES: Well, I mean the $5 billion Future Drought Fund thats ridiculous thats not accessible until July 1 next year.
FITZGIBBON: And it doesnt go to any farmers Alan.
JONES: Thats right
FITZGIBBON: It goes to innovation. Its not a bad thing but not one cent of that money, if its spent on the basis they claim it will be spent, will go to a farmer.
JONES: See what gets me, Joel, is these people think they know everything I think some of them have never been on a farm. What the farmers need you speak to them, I think to them, I speak to them every day they need fodder and water and they cant afford the freight. Now, there is fodder and water. You take that Moyne Shire down there, they have had a terrific season there is fodder and water available to be brought to the Hunter Valley, or to Walgett or to western Queensland Winton, but the farmer cant afford the freight. What the government should say is we will pay the freight. Secondly, who is going to cart the fodder and the water? Well, the army. Thats why you make it a national disaster and you pull all the resources in. But Joel, its worse than that, you see stupid me I sit up all night going through these 21 dam proposals 21 of them 15 clearly have nothing to do with dams 15! Now, the other six are on the margin, you might call them dams on the margin, but there is not a shovel in the ground and there is no likelihood of a shovel going into the ground, so it rains like hell tomorrow and we are in the same situation as we were this time last year and the year before, and the year before.
FITZGIBBON: And for six years, Alan, the Government has talked building dams, raising false hope, and now given their failure theyre trying to put their responsibility back onto the states. Well, as you know, its a joint effort and if we are not working together, well we are not likely to be getting any results. But, youve inspired me to do my own research. It appears to me that Moyne Council isnt the only big question mark hanging over this Drought Communities Program. I got a text from a well-known and highly respected leader in the agriculture sector yesterday and it simply said: just been through Kyogle, looks like a good year, and I had no idea why he was sending me that message and Ive checked, of course, that Kyogle was added to that list now Im not denying Kyogle any assistance, I dont really know the situation on the ground but the question will need to be asked. And then I had a look at the few of the others. Swan Hill City Council, also in Victoria, in the National Party seat of Mallee and there are some very interesting comments from the CEO, John McLinden, down there who says that they are pleasantly surprised they hadnt applied for the money, they havent had a look at the guidelines, they dont know what they allowed to do with it, but he said the season down there has been in quotes a mixed bad and its a irrigating community and drought is not usually associated with irrigating communities in that part of the world. So, it looks to me increasingly Alan, like this Drought Communities Program might be more a pork barrel than one designed to help drought stricken communities.
JONES: Thats right well, just, look well talk and talk, but Ill just make one final point for today, Joel, if you take the Darling Downs, the area you are representing, the Hunter Valley, and the Liverpool Plains, they would be three of the most productive, potentially productive agricultures in the world in the world. They are as dry as a bone and not one project, not one project relates to the Darling Downs, the Hunter Valley, or the Liverpool Plains. Do these people know where these farms are? Have they ever been on a farm?
FITZGIBBON: Scott Morrison is more interested in political outcomes then he is helping drought affected farmers and community. Now I dont want another committee, but I think we now need an Australian National Audit Office analysis, not only of the Drought Communities Program, but everything the government has spent on drought over the last six years because as you know it has been piecemeal and ad hoc, and we want to know where the money is going, because again
JONES: And in the meantime, Joel, I mean financially and psychologically, rural Australia is on its knees. This should be a national disaster, declared a national disaster, the army brought in and we transport water and fodder from where it is to where its needed. Well keep talking to you; you keep emailing us; we will get there in the end.
FITZGIBBON: Good on you Alan.
JONES: Good on you there Joel Fitzgibbon, the Shadow Minister, but talking to anyone in the Government is a waste of space.