SUBJECTS: PMs U.S. trip;Drought Envoy.
NATALIE BARR: Nationals MP, Barnaby Joyce, and the ALPs, Joel Fitzgibbon. Good morning gents. Barnaby
BARNABY JOYCE: Good morning, Sam. Good morning, Nat.
BARR: How do you rate the PMs performance so far over the last few days? Whats been the most interesting part of the U.S. tour?
JOYCE: Well, Id rate it in how hes been received by people in the White House administration, especially the President. So, Id rate it very, very well and thats very, very important to Australia. Very, very important that our, an ally has the same views on the liberties and rights of the individual is also strong. Were strong with them because in this world where we live, democracy is actually getting less, not more, so we have to hold fast to those virtues of a democratic, rule-based society because if were not strong together, well be very weak apart, and for Australia excessively vulnerable.
SAM ARMYTAGE: Joel, theres a very healthy bromance going on between these two conservative leaders what does that mean for our alliance?
JOEL FITZGIBBON:Good morning, team. Look, these trips to Washington are always important no matter who is our Prime Minister, and who is in Government, but you know, when everyones stopped drinking the cool-aid theyll come back to reality and remember that here in Australia our economy is anaemic, our farmers are facing a calamity, our towns are running out of water and theyre asking the question, Well, what about us?
And while I believe we can chew gum and walk too, many in rural communities will be asking, Why are we investing in money to send a rocket to Mars, when we desperately need money here in rural Australia? These are Scott Morrisons forgotten people, and they grow more angry by the day.
BARR:Well, one of the reasons why the Prime Minister says were doing that is to create jobs. Thats *inaudible.*The PM has pledged this $150 million towards NASAs mission to the moon and Mars over the next five years. Not all the reviews are positive, though.
Our viewers have hit Facebook over the weekend, Dot said, What about Australia? Time to start taking care of our country. Chantel says, Imagine what $150 million could do for struggling farmers. The mind boggles that someone could be so frivolous. Theresa wrote on Facebook, What an epic waste of money. Take ScoMo to Mars and leave him there. Barnaby, what do you think of this criticism of the spending? ScomMo says its to get jobs into this country, its a long-term approach.
JOYCE:Well, I can hear Joel giggling in the background. Joel, you cant say its great to go to the United States. Just
FITZGIBBON: Well, Barnaby
JOYCE: Just, just let me finish, mate. You always spoil speak too much on these shows, and then go and say, Well, you shouldnt have gone. You cant do both Joel. Youre either in one camp, or the other. Now, why is it important? If you think of the benefit we got from the Apollo mission solar panels, computers, micro-processors, even the firemans suit for all these things, and these advancements that have gone on, nano-technology, and although the trip obviously costs an incredible amount of money and I understand, and hear the concerns that people have about $150 million if we get the benefits of the technology, and how we can apply that into the future for our nation, we make an immense benefit to this country.
I imagine though I was not privy to the Cabinet discussions that is what is driving this issue, because we know that the incredible boom to America that came not from putting a man on the moon, but came from the technology that they had to discover to put a man on the moon. Well, that will be by a factor of gosh knows what ten, a hundred to put someone, you know, basically onto the, onto the earth of Mars onto the ground at Mars and we want to be part of that, and we want to bring some of that wealth and those jobs that come from that back to this nation.
AMRYTAGE: Yes, Joel is there anything, anything good you can see here about the $150 million to NASA? We, I mean, there are great Australian businesses out there creating some great technology who could get involved here.
FITZGIBBON: And were celebrating Anthony Pratts investment in the United States today, or at least Scott Morrison is, but while thats always a welcomed thing I think that investment, or much of it, could have been happening here in Australia if the Government had a decent industry plan.
But look, I dont think that people in rural Australia would mind $150 million being spent on a space mission if the Government here in Australia was taking their problems seriously, and putting substantial amounts of money into their plight as well. Instead, were having an argument about Barnaby, you know, putting the case the dog ate his homework, you know, coordinators, drought envoys and all of this
JOYCE: Joel, where do you come up with this?
FITZGIBBON: People are just looking for some action, and the absence of that action and in the absence of that action, theyre questioning an investment
JOYCE: That sounds like you*inaudible*
FITZGIBBON: Which would have ordinarily been welcomed.
FITZGIBBON: Tell us about your hard work, Barnaby. The dog ate it, didnt it? Isnt that what isnt that what happened?
JOYCE: Sometimes I wonder sometimes I wonder, other times Im certain. You go from kind of sensible, to absolutely out there on the edge, but anyway. We are putting billions of dollars into drought and that is incredibly important
FITZGIBBON: I wouldve written a report, but the Prime Minister sacked me.
JOYCE: Joel, look, go back to your pal and your dog eating your homework lines, theyre failing terribly. Just stick with them. So, we are putting billions of dollars
FITZGIBBON: Wheres the report, Barnaby?
JOYCE: And its so important, so important that we do, and I actually heaps of reports to the Prime Minister by the way by the way and actually, thats another thing that you got wrong, wrong. So, so, we have got to make sure
FITZGIBBON: Always telling fibs, Barnaby.
JOYCE: That we do we do walk and chew gum. Joel
JOYCE: Honestly, did you get sleep last night? Hooley dooley.
ARMYTAGE: Gentlemen, can I interrupt because we have to go, but Barnaby can we get you one when weve got more time another day because I really want to talk about, there are plenty of towns in New South Wales about to run out of water and its a really serious issue
JOYCE: Absolutely. Some have.
ARMYTAGE: And we keep getting side-tracked by NASA. Yes, I think Dubbo is about to run out, Tamworth
JOYCE: Some have.*Inaudible.*Tamworth, Dubbo, Tenterfield, Armidale.
ARMYTAGE: Yes. So, we need a serious discussion about whats so can you come back another day when weve got more time this week and well chat?
JOYCE: Absolutely. I would love to. Just leave the, with his dog
FITZGIBBON: Can I just say
JOYCE: You cant Joel. You cant Joel. Just go away.
FITZGIBBON: Why are you going to talk to the guy who has done nothing for six years? Its a waste of time
JOYCE: Because you bring up rubbish such as the dog ate your homework rubbish.
FITZGIBBON: Talk to someone who knows what theyre doing, and is committed to rural Australia.
JOYCE: Dog ate the homework. Joel go back to sleep.
FITZGIBBON: Six years Barnaby.
ARMYTAGE: We need to talk to someone in Government to see whats going to happen. Alright gentlemen
FITZGIBBON: Well, good luck with that.
JOYCE: Go back to sleep. Wake up. Try it again.
ARMYTAGE: Thank you for your time, weve got to go. Thank you though